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Post by spock on Apr 7, 2004 5:53:54 GMT -5
I prefer my fiction to science fiction, so the chances of me reading the koran are about as likely as me reading the bible.
Back to these animals though: do they share the same afterlife as muslims then?
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Post by mariam on Apr 7, 2004 6:02:33 GMT -5
hi, i think we just set our discussion on fire! Right........... Anyway, by what i know coz i haven't read too much into that yet, they have a seperate afterlife.
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Post by spock on Apr 7, 2004 6:05:20 GMT -5
Phew, thjat's a relief, cos I really hate mosquitos, and their must have been gazillions of mosquitos lived and died. Who would want to share an afterlife with every animal, inect and amoeba that ever existed?
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Post by mariam on Apr 7, 2004 6:16:09 GMT -5
Ha ha funny mr/mrs mockery!
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Post by spock on Apr 7, 2004 6:27:08 GMT -5
What, you think I might be a woman???
Now you are insulting me.....
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Post by mariam on Apr 7, 2004 6:41:29 GMT -5
Sorry i didn't know. Well im not gonna assume one over the other, i go by facts not guesses.
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Post by spock on Apr 8, 2004 6:40:10 GMT -5
Sorry i didn't know. Well im not gonna assume one over the other, i go by facts not guesses. You go by facts not guesses yet you believe in god? Bit of a contradiction there, don't you think?
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Post by mariam on Apr 8, 2004 8:13:10 GMT -5
No, im not contradicting myself. maybe in your eyes i am, but i believe in Allah(swt) and he's final messenger(saas) and the revelation of the Quran is proof enough for me. and im truelly sorry if you think otherwise. may allah guide u.
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Post by Maverik on Jun 23, 2004 1:08:12 GMT -5
This is stated in The Qu'ran, everyone is gonna hate on Islam, Religious ignorance will prevail. Then Prophet Jesus descends to show Christans and Athiest and All non-muslims the truth, I just pray that you Spock and that ignorant idiot starjade will be alive so you actually have chances for Paradise.
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Post by spock on Jun 23, 2004 15:37:47 GMT -5
Please don't waste your time praying for me Maverick, no one's listening.
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Post by spock on Jun 27, 2004 4:36:14 GMT -5
And further, judging by the amount of hate and intolerance contained within the (mostly muslim) posters on this forum, I rather feel that the 3rd world war has indeed started. I wonder when the first nuke is going to be used?
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Post by Maverik NYC on Jul 18, 2004 4:25:48 GMT -5
I didn't mean I was gonna actually pray for you you dumb nuts, I don't really care if you don't wanna follow the truth, it's your loss.
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Post by Christian militant on Jul 24, 2004 11:08:09 GMT -5
I have read the quaran ect., I find that Islam is harmfull and hatfull, its not that im being a bggot its what most non-muslims believe, and no argument is going to make me change that opinion. If you are peacefull show the rest of the world and hand over the terriorist. People I know were killed by muslims for being Christian. If Islam dosn't make a 360 turn, I will have to stamp the flame that is Islam out with the sole of my shoe. IF you don't change the Tigris will run with blood from Islam's sons, daughters, mothers, fathers. I grew up all I evr knew was death from Islam. And you need to take the things out that say kill the infidel ect.
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Post by Guest on Aug 16, 2004 10:07:33 GMT -5
Peace You knw wot pple...everyone seems to concentrate on muslims killing others...what about when others kill muslims...christian millitant do u remember past history do you remember the british empire and their cruelty upon the asians in india muslims and hindus and seekhs...do you remember about the tartars? they hated muslims for no reason they massacred muslims so much they drowned so many books and quraans that the rivers used to have briges of tehm that you could walk across...but what happend? those same pple after living in the muslim lands became intrigued and intersted in this religion and wot happend...when they opend their minds to it..they became muslims themselves...they accepted the very thing they hated...my point is many people dont really understand it and when they look into it they wind up being so intrigued they become muslim themselves. what is a muslim...it is one who submits to God and no one else. Now ive mentioned this before but after september the 11th people went out seeking knowledge to try understnad who r "moslems" they found the truth and like never before masses convereted to islam in america. why is it the fastest growing religion in the world? why are people inclined to it? yet they see this so called muslim violence everyday on t.v. etc... what it is, is that muslims are representatives of teh creator alone and try to follow the laws made obligatory by God...that is why a democratic system is not for us...we cannot take anyone as a sovereign only God alone has that authority. we are required by God to set up a system with the divine laws. After all we need to be greatful to God we would not be here if the creator did not want us to be. Muslims are supposed to be the most just people and if they are unjust to anyone we will pay the price. It is sed that at the time of war muslims are not even allowed to destroy land or trees or kill animals women or children or the old and weak or the disabled. And if we do we will pay the price the whole of humanity will for their injustices. Spock...thing is it may be hard for you to thik how can there b a God look at the suffering etc etc if there was the world would be harmonious and perfect etc etc Well God has given us free will to choose the paths we want to follow but has revealed the truth and given us guidance weather we wish to accept it or not...if we do wrong we will pay the price. Ponder on the creation such perfect existance could not just cum about...look at the advancement of science and its sophistication yet it cannot recreate a simple spiders web. I dnt knw if u read that other thread but i tld u a lil story...il briefly retell it there was this athies sitting under a tree...an old man walked past...he goes to the old man look it such a beutiful day today...the old man sed something like yes Praise be to God it is...the athiest sed i dnt belive in God everything was created by evolution...and world by big bang...the old man whacked the athiest on the head with awalking stick...the athiest says ouch wot was that for...the old man sed wot i didnt do anything...he sed yes u did u hit me on the head with ur stick...oldman sed no i raised my stick above ur head, the gravity pulled it down on to ur head the athiest sed yeah mayb but it was ur hand behind it and u initiated the motion. The athiest explained u r such an intelligent person but yet ur unfortunately are such an unintelligent person... although the world was created by the big bang it was Gods wisdom behind it...God says to it be and it is. The quraan has many scientific facts that are only being discoverd today...this is amazing for us but nothing for the creator cos He knows his ceration well. www.beconvinced.com/SCIENCEINDEX.htm#SCIENCE%20IN%20THEtake a look at the science i was talking about hope its of use. Ponder over the creation ponder on the ecosystems...ponder on the fact that we feel helpless in this big world in need of help from a more supreme existence...ponder on the fact that if things jus happen then boats should spontaneously form...why is there a 9 month pregnancy time wouldnt everyone differ by size...big babaies being born quciker etc...flowers come out of the dirt of the ground that is sometimes fed manuoure for nutrient yet they cum out smelling beutiful of beutiful colours...who allows it to grow in the darkness int he depths of the soil doesnt it need light even as a seed and warmth? look at the elements and water and fire and wind and earth...how did they come about they were created everything has to strt from sumwhere theres no poof and there it is. As for the creator of all we cnnot comprehend we our limited minds someone unlimited. But the muslims(i.e. any people of any colour...the creation who submit their will to God) will God willingly in the hearafter get to see the creator.
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Post by Guest on Aug 16, 2004 10:14:49 GMT -5
p.s. God loves all of mankind if we follow his laws provided by those chosen messengers.
Still even if we choose to believe or not God is so merciful and still provides us with his countless blessings we enjoy so many pleasures.
People that endure hardships are tested...God tests those that he loves most of all...to see weather the creation is still steadfast and turn to Him for help...if so we will get a reward like we cant comprehend
There are signs for those who wich to see the truth...i hope God guides u to the staight path of those he loves and not of those that cause his wrath.
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